tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5249819177943497156.post4265330751341557399..comments2014-10-18T17:46:28.291-04:00Comments on Southern Fried Cheesesteak: Still the "Gold Standard?"ross Jhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04765661111957552735noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5249819177943497156.post-27156121563019183592009-08-28T18:39:23.724-04:002009-08-28T18:39:23.724-04:00Matt Money, there's no questioning your loyalt...Matt Money, there's no questioning your loyalty and I don't have a problem with fans questioning the Vick signing. That's what fans do. I guess my issue lies with fans who are ready to trade in this loyalty. I'm all for second-guessing team decisions, but are you truly and honestly so put off by the Eagles that you would not cheer for them or not watch their games? I just don't see it happening. <br /><br />As far as Michael Irvin goes, there were many people in the stadium who stood and cheered while he lay motionless on the VET turf. Another example are the fans that beat the shit out of opposing teams fans simply for cheering for their teams. Now, these same fans (present company excluded) are up in arms over Vick? I feel like that's so hypocritical.ross Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04765661111957552735noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5249819177943497156.post-60152139429506734322009-08-28T13:41:44.690-04:002009-08-28T13:41:44.690-04:00Its hard to argue with you when you know my soft s...Its hard to argue with you when you know my soft spot for Stan Walters!I didn't cheer when Irvin went down so I don't exactly get the analogy. I just feel that their are people that are making fans like me feel guilty for questioning the Eagles signing of Vick. It is weird to me that fans are getting angry at me for being bothered by the Vick signing. You know I'm not a fair weather fan. i came of age as a fan in the Marion Campbell era, so I'm through thick and thin. I'm not discounting your stance. It appears that most fans are coming around to Vick. But to quote Mike Missanelli, "I'm just not there yet". If you get a chance read this article. It sums up my problems with accepting Vick too early. (you'll have to cut and paste it.<br /><br />http://www.philly.com/inquirer/opinion/55628402.htmlMatt Moneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10481220112294720287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5249819177943497156.post-50854471725833944452009-08-28T12:38:55.745-04:002009-08-28T12:38:55.745-04:00Matt, I definitely hear your point and it is valid...Matt, I definitely hear your point and it is valid, but did you know that Michael Vick served the most severe dog-fighting penalty that any offender has ever served (this came directly from the Atlanta Humane Society). Again, doesn't take away from his heinous act, but at what point is it okay to resume your life? And the doctors and lawyers who lose their profession are disbarred, which is a choice made by their professions’ governing body. The NFL has already given Vick the green-light to play again, so I think the comparison with other professionals isn't exactly an apples-to-apples comparison. I believe the Eagles players and coaches think Michael Vick will help them be a better ballclub. That is to be determined. Jeff Lurie, who was clearly strong-armed into this decision, definitely has his hide on the line. He's made public statements about how he must see Vick be "very involved" and stay proactive in the community and around the country. If he is not, "this will be a big mistake," according to Lurie. To quote the great Herbie Brooks, "The name on the front of the jersey means a helluva lot more than the name on the back of the jersey." That's how I feel here. Will I always root for Dawk regardless of where he plays? Yes. Will I root for Dawk when he plays against the Eagles -- not so much. I love the player, but the team is what I grew up cheering for. It wasn't just Jaws, it was Wilbert Montgomery, Harold Carmichael, Bill Bergey, "Big Foot" Harrison, Randy Logan, Steve Spagnola, Stan Walters. It was that team, not just one individual. Based on what I saw, heard and read, it sounded like there was a mixture of cheers and jeers for Vick, but I believe without any hesitation, if we win the fans of Philadelphia will move past this. I realize this is a moral issue, but here is my question... When Michael Irvin lay motionless on the ground in Philly (his career had come to an end) and fans were standing and applauding - where is the moral character in that? Again, I'm far from a Michael Irvin fan, but to cheer a player who isn't moving and then talk about morality as a fan doesn't add up to me.ross Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04765661111957552735noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5249819177943497156.post-34079830527533624762009-08-28T12:35:06.716-04:002009-08-28T12:35:06.716-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5249819177943497156.post-86055525764491112322009-08-27T13:41:19.502-04:002009-08-27T13:41:19.502-04:00There are some fans such as myself that feel under...There are some fans such as myself that feel under valued by Eagles management. First, they let Dawk ski away and now they sign a dog torturing pariah apparently just to run the Wildcat (I know, DeSean Jackson could never learn such a complicated football play!) Anyway I feel just like Vick has a right to play (although lawyers and doctors who commit felonies lose their profession forever), I have the right to be outraged that he is on my team. I know after 18 months of prison, he is probably fully rehabilitated after a corrupt mindset responsible for 6 years of systematic dog killing... I'm all for Megan's law even though sex offenders have technically paid their debt to society... I keep hearing how Eagles fans will be back once the Eagles start winning with Vick. But this is a complicated moral issue for some and it shouldn't be trivialized. I believe fans have the right to challenge the moral hypocrisy of their team. I have talked to plenty of Philadelphians who are not sure how to be a fan of this team. That sentiment is valid to them. If the Eagles end up losing this year, this may be the end of the increasingly shattered trust that exists between Eagles management and their fans. I have lived and breathed the Eagles for many years. I'm a little sad that the Eagles have put me in a position where I can't look forward to my Sunday on a bar stool with an Andre Waters jersey on. I want to root for them, but I'm not sure how at this point..... Get ready for a media circus tonight... Ross, I'm enjoying this lively discourse. I respect your opinion but I thought I'd add mine.Matt Moneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10481220112294720287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5249819177943497156.post-53980944369543517092009-08-19T22:29:19.493-04:002009-08-19T22:29:19.493-04:00The Eagles I believe are a better team with Vick. ...The Eagles I believe are a better team with Vick. I hope to see the #7 vs the Falcons. How weird and excitging it will be seeing Vick in an ugly green uniform. Great insight on the Eagles probably trading Vick next year for a draft pick. This is a great opportunity for Vick to get back into the NFL and get some experience.Waynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05859118957868705113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5249819177943497156.post-10282317043834690212009-08-16T15:43:23.492-04:002009-08-16T15:43:23.492-04:00Why the hell were you up at 5 in the morning?Why the hell were you up at 5 in the morning?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5249819177943497156.post-48259634487347824672009-08-15T09:03:36.459-04:002009-08-15T09:03:36.459-04:00Well-said, brother, especially your comments to th...Well-said, brother, especially your comments to the so-called fans who are jumping off the bandwagon. As I've told you in various e-mails and discussions since this happened, I still think another shoe is going to drop because otherwise this just doesn't make sense. Given the NFL's crazy rules about when the 3rd string QB can play, Vick will have to be the the No. 2 QB. Some suggest they may list him as a WR or RB so they can get him in games. Interesting, but I'm guessing the league will have something to say about that especially since Reid has insisted publicly that Vick is a QB. As for DMac endorsing this move, I see this as another situation where he just can't win. If he had criticized the move, everyone would have called him selfish, said he wasn't being a team guy and that he was threatened by a guy who was brought in to help him and the team win. (Ross: I swear I can just hear the piling on that would have happened had he reacted to it negatively.) He says he endorses the Vic move and folks say he's lying. He just can't win. Here's what I believe about that: Donovan has been in the league what 11-12 years and still hasn't won the SB. He's sees an ultra talented guy who, if used correctly, could make 2 or 3 plays a game that could make a huge difference and he says 'yes. i'm fine with that. i just want to win the SB.' To me it's really that simple. Interesting point about the teams that didn't use the Wildcat. I hadn't thought about that at all, but I'm not sure that's a factor. But you do make an interesting point. I don't worry too much about DMac losing his rhythm any more than if he was in the game and they handed off for 6 straight plays. Not that the Eagles ever do that, but you see my point.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5249819177943497156.post-16902412590278627942009-08-14T13:55:53.796-04:002009-08-14T13:55:53.796-04:00Damn, I don't know what to say. I guess I don&...Damn, I don't know what to say. I guess I don't need to call you now. Man, I tell you, I wish I could post this blog on the message board here at work. Like you said, IT'S ONE GUY. If anyone's hatred for guy is that great that you root for someone else, here's an umbrella Mr./Mrs. Fairweather. Have a nice life! I wasn't for the signing of Brett Favre for my Vikings and still don't think Jackson or Rosenfields is the answer, but guess what? I still root for my Vikes week in and week out. <br /><br />Thanks for the eloquent words my man. I can now take a deep sigh and respect society again.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01523746460489378712noreply@blogger.com